|
|
Just because two EA employees were able to play it, does not mean a damn thing; you cannot judge anything like response, how well the controls are mapped, or anything remotely involved with something besides starring at a screen. Of course this demo was going to be polished out the ass, the real question is, whether or not that shine continues over to something resembling a final product. You have to remember, the reason it looks so good is because most of it was ripped off from FNR4. |
|
|
And the best thing of the game so far? They appreciate YOUR input over there at the EA MMA forums. I see a big topic over here, 113 pages. Did a admin ever reply to anything you have said? Not in particular because I want to play it so much, but much rather to see the improvements they have made on their game. Starting a franchise is easy, but keeping it interesting every year is alot harder. Oh and Gmadden57, I respect your opinion but its a game, its no rocket science. I am pretty sure those guys at EA Sports know how to make a proper control scheme. Even we can make one up, so why wouldnt the developers be able to, at their own game. And yes the FNR4 engine was used, but thats the only thing the games have in common. They had to rebuild the whole engine. So "most of it was ripped" is a huge exaggeration. Besides, mixed opinions about FNR4 but you have to agree with me that the engine is the best thing they could use for that game. And people werent able to play at the showing, but lets be honest. It took UFC Undisputed a lot longer to hold a press event for their game. And no, the press wasnt able to play either. They had to watch Dana White play with his buddies. |
|
|
Just because they're not responding, does not mean they're not reading it. Case in point, the game world of warcraft has an entire forum dedicated to player suggestions, and they NEVER respond to the threads (513 pages, at 50 threads per pages = 25650 threads, and that doesn't even count all of the pages in each thread), yet they still implement many things which have been suggested. It's a legal matter more than anything. The only reason EA is actually is interacting like that is because they cannot be sued with the game still in development, while blizzard or THQ can be, as their games are already out, and someone could make a case that their ideas were stolen for profit. They took the graphical engine directly from FNR4, I'd say that's a HUGE advantage, knowing just how good that engine actually is. If you want to praise some random journalists' opinions of an unfinished game made purely to piggyback off of Undisputed's success, that's your prerogative, but I'm going to actually wait until the thing is finished. That's when we'll find out if they care more about the MMA fan base or just making money. |
|
|
Just because they're not responding, does not mean they're not reading it. Case in point, the game world of warcraft has an entire forum dedicated to player suggestions, and they NEVER respond to the threads (513 pages, at 50 threads per pages = 25650 threads, and that doesn't even count all of the pages in each thread), yet they still implement many things which have been suggested. It's a legal matter more than anything. The only reason EA is actually is interacting like that is because they cannot be sued with the game still in development, while blizzard or THQ can be, as their games are already out, and someone could make a case that their ideas were stolen for profit. They took the graphical engine directly from FNR4, I'd say that's a HUGE advantage, knowing just how good that engine actually is. If you want to praise some random journalists' opinions of an unfinished game made purely to piggyback off of Undisputed's success, that's your prerogative, but I'm going to actually wait until the thing is finished. That's when we'll find out if they care more about the MMA fan base or just making money. You do know that anything you post on the internet is free to use by anyone right? Unless you own the rights to it, like a trademark or it is copyrighted, anyone can take your ideas, pictures, videos and use them. It has nothing to do with legal matters and the worry that EA could be sued. They are interacting with the community because they love MMA and it is a great community builder. They even have live chats with guest fighters on almost every PPV event. You get to talk to them and ask them questions to the devs and the fighters. Again it has nothing to do with legal matters. The engine they are using is a heavily modified version on the original FNR4 engine. It isn't a direct rip. They are using that engine as a foundation and building on top of it making almost a new engine. The devs have said this and even Peter Moore has said this. How is this game "piggybacking" off of Undisputed's "success". This game have been in the works for over 2 years now. I could understand if they just started the project right after Undisputed came out and it took 3 years to make but EA has been working on this for over 2 years. I don't see how that is "piggybacking". Also Undisputed was initially a huge success but the end result was a huge failure. They have pushed more customers away for the next installment. This game has so many problems. All the proof points that they are making this for the MMA fans. |
|
|
Just because they're not responding, does not mean they're not reading it. Case in point, the game world of warcraft has an entire forum dedicated to player suggestions, and they NEVER respond to the threads (513 pages, at 50 threads per pages = 25650 threads, and that doesn't even count all of the pages in each thread), yet they still implement many things which have been suggested. It's a legal matter more than anything. The only reason EA is actually is interacting like that is because they cannot be sued with the game still in development, while blizzard or THQ can be, as their games are already out, and someone could make a case that their ideas were stolen for profit. They took the graphical engine directly from FNR4, I'd say that's a HUGE advantage, knowing just how good that engine actually is. If you want to praise some random journalists' opinions of an unfinished game made purely to piggyback off of Undisputed's success, that's your prerogative, but I'm going to actually wait until the thing is finished. That's when we'll find out if they care more about the MMA fan base or just making money. You do know that anything you post on the internet is free to use by anyone right? Unless you own the rights to it, like a trademark or it is copyrighted, anyone can take your ideas, pictures, videos and use them. It has nothing to do with legal matters and the worry that EA could be sued. They are interacting with the community because they love MMA and it is a great community builder. They even have live chats with guest fighters on almost every PPV event. You get to talk to them and ask them questions to the devs and the fighters. Again it has nothing to do with legal matters. The engine they are using is a heavily modified version on the original FNR4 engine. It isn't a direct rip. They are using that engine as a foundation and building on top of it making almost a new engine. The devs have said this and even Peter Moore has said this. How is this game "piggybacking" off of Undisputed's "success". This game have been in the works for over 2 years now. I could understand if they just started the project right after Undisputed came out and it took 3 years to make but EA has been working on this for over 2 years. I don't see how that is "piggybacking". Also Undisputed was initially a huge success but the end result was a huge failure. They have pushed more customers away for the next installment. This game has so many problems. All the proof points that they are making this for the MMA fans. I don't think THQ have pushed away as many customers as you think. If EA MMA outsells Undisputed 2009 or 2010 I'd be extremely surprised. That said, it is LOOKING good so far. Here's hoping they release a demo. |
|
|
I don't think THQ have pushed away as many customers as you think. If EA MMA outsells Undisputed 2009 or 2010 I'd be extremely surprised. That said, it is LOOKING good so far. Here's hoping they release a demo. I agree. The UFC brand will be strong enough to make 70% of the people who bought the 2009 version, get the 2010 version aswell. As far as the demo goes, I am 100% sure they will release that on time. That will be the way they have to convince people their game is better. In fact it wouldnt even surprise me if the demo will be around 2 weeks before UFC Undisputed 2010 hits the stores or so, thats how I would do it |
|
|
i know what im talking a bout and if any of you non belivers dont belive me then look into it yourself about all the info most of the sites ive looked at are posted by dirtybird above. or u can find more easy by just typing in ea mma in a search engine or direct from the official site. my opinion is gonna stick an stay as is until i see inprovement. i mean come on look how much detail THQ puts into wwe smackdown vs raw 2010 compared to ufc undisputed 2009. it doesnt make since how lazy they were with undisputed compared to the deatail in wwe. and whats sad about it is that ThQ has made some of the older ufc games including pride fc. which is kind of sad though because the fact that people want to be able to edit what moves their fighter has or even cage physics and entrances was in those older ps1 and ps2 and xbox games. takedown looks those games up and look at features of those games im not here to pic or choose btwn EA MMA or undisputed but from what ive seen and found out so far it looks like EA is winning so far. i mean yeah a roster with well known people isnt bad at all but like yari said iits no use to have a roster like that if every damn fighter on their fights almost the exact same. the only fighter diffrent in the game that i know of is evans(has head kick as an boxer) 9 fighters out of 80 being diffent than the other fighters is pretty sad if u ask me and if u dnt agree then there is something wrong with u and ur ridin undisputed's balls too hard. keep watch and eye on both games then voice ur opinion or wait till they come out and play both. undisputed messed up with things undisputed did ok with i respect opinions but dont respect disrepect of my opinions . and arcadey style of gameplay what exactly aspect do u see ufc or ea mma to be like that? are u trying to compare these games to games like tekken or street fighter etc etc type games. and ea mma does look better then undisputed its like comparing graphics of fightnight round 3 on the xbox 360 compared to the better looking PS3 version |
|
|
EA seems like they are really devoted to making the game authentic as they can. i mean i could understand why the opinion of none of us actaully know how the gameplay is but just from what info ea has realeased so far has me impressed enough to belive it will come out good. they are trying to make sure that we will be able to keep the fight at the pace that we want and keep it in our comfort zone. im sorry but undisputed was unrealistic when it came to certain things in their game such as wit forrest griffins counter punch from grabbig a head or leg kick why it that he was the only fighter in the game able to do that when anyone in real life could do that with the right timing and also why is it that every time when a leg kick is caught that it automatically takes you to the ground or same with head kicks. ea went into the right direction with giving us the option to go for the takedown or strike once u have ahold of ur opponents leg because then u have the choice of what u want to or dont want to do instead of being forced into a situation u dnt want to be in. i mean i can understand why undisputed did things that way so that u dont get cheated out by head kicks all day or leg kicks all day but still thats not as realistic.. and lack of style diffrence was a mistake as well because styles is wat makes up any type of fight even non violent fights such as verbal fights or competition btwn companies styles make the world go round because if ea mma used the exact format undisputed had then mma would lose automatically just for making the same mistakes using the same style. so seeing how things play out from both companies make things interesting just because of the fact ur seeing their view of mixed martial arts should be like in game format. another thing that i belive to be unrealistic though about undispted is why is it that only wrestler can obtain the full posture postion when in real life anyone can obatin the full posture its just the fact of do u know how to work from full posture and controll it so that kind of bothered me about the game. still not 100% sure if how things will work in ea mma but from waht i know im sure that we wont see similar styles in the game wit regular or created fighters cuz on undisputed it was ridiculous that every fighter can do the same moves or submisions. the only thing that sepereates them ive already talked about which doesnt make no since to make the game this way. say if ur rampage fighting rashad an dhe had u in full posture and u catch his hand and put him in a submisson like an armbar or triangle is this something we would see in a real fight with any of those fighters? i think not and that is why they are making sure ur fighter only can do what he is good at because no fighter knows how to do every move not even bruce lee knows evey single style in the world but knows more then enough to make his own. and the comment that was stated above is how i feel about the ufc undisputed game right now about they didnt really care about us fans and just wanted the money because they know that they have the name ufc and its fighters and that just that alone will sell . but now that they have there 1st new installment i belive they will try to be more serious about it since they promised a next yr release |
|
|
You do know that anything you post on the internet is free to use by anyone right? Unless you own the rights to it, like a trademark or it is copyrighted, anyone can take your ideas, pictures, videos and use them. It has nothing to do with legal matters and the worry that EA could be sued. They are interacting with the community because they love MMA and it is a great community builder. They even have live chats with guest fighters on almost every PPV event. You get to talk to them and ask them questions to the devs and the fighters. Again it has nothing to do with legal matters. The engine they are using is a heavily modified version on the original FNR4 engine. It isn't a direct rip. They are using that engine as a foundation and building on top of it making almost a new engine. The devs have said this and even Peter Moore has said this. How is this game "piggybacking" off of Undisputed's "success". This game have been in the works for over 2 years now. I could understand if they just started the project right after Undisputed came out and it took 3 years to make but EA has been working on this for over 2 years. I don't see how that is "piggybacking". Also Undisputed was initially a huge success but the end result was a huge failure. They have pushed more customers away for the next installment. This game has so many problems. All the proof points that they are making this for the MMA fans. Here's everything wrong with your post: 1. You do not lose the right to your intellectual properties once they go on the internet, NO ONE can use your original ideas or creations WITH OUT YOUR CONSENT! |
They said on the Middle Easy site that they DID NOT PLAY IT: The demo we saw ran on an Xbox 360. Unfortunately we weren't allowed to actually play the game (leave it up to two EA geeks to do that).
Like I said, no one to my knowledge has even gotten their hands on this game and people are gushing over looks.
Yes no one from the press has been able to play it but they watched two EA employees fight each other on it. This isn't all looks like it is some video. What they saw was an actual playable version of the game. It wasn't a video and two guys pretending to play it. They (press) saw an actual live match between Fedor and Rogers being played between two people. Everything that the press saw during that match is what they are writing about. Just because they did not get to play it doesn't mean that the game mechanics they are talking about is fake or not going to be in the game.